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Frank,

 

I am so impressed with the opportunity you’ve opened for a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  I believe you have some sincere concerns.

 

As a member, I can’t imagine the L.D.S. church ever sanctioning members ever asking a “Christian” to “compromise her/his faith”.  In truth, we are taught very carefully never to discuss any other faith in a negative way, EVER.  Some of us do, but not sanctioned by the Church or leaders.  In fact, the Church teaches us there is good & good people in all faiths.  This is fact, the teaching.

 

No Mormon in their right mind should care who/who does not vote for Romney.  I’m certain many Mormons will not be voting for him.  Some may actually not agree w/me on this, but then the Church would not agree w/them.

 

What does disturb ALL Mormons (a nickname given to the Church by hateful evangelicals in the 1800s) is that our church has been brought into a national election scene by some evangelicals as a negative attribute of a candidate.  It’s so contradictory to what Mormons are taught.  I voted for both Bushes who are Southern Baptists, religious affinity never even a thought.  My mother voted for JFK, & it was never a thought.  But, suddenly, here comes every bit of hate for the Mormon Church from some evangelicals.

 

I grew up in California, joined the Mormon Church at age 15.  I had no clue about the hate some evangelicals have toward the Mormon Church until attending a conference in Salt Lake City in the 1960s.  One morning, I saw someone putting literature under windshield wiper blades of cars parked along streets surrounding Temple Square.  Someone in our group suggested I remove one & read it.  It was filled w/some pretty strange, bigoted stuff about the church I’d recently joined.  In those days, I had no idea who was behind this, just that someone did it.  Californians don’t typically take this kind of behavior lightly.  We pretty much say what we think, no matter what.  Frankly, I was offended.  From a very early age, I knew that the Mormon Church was a Christian faith.  I also had a clear understanding that Christians are not to judge others, say bad things about others.

 

At 17-19, I spent 2 years on a building construction mission for the L.D.S. Church in Utah, mostly in rural communities.  I can’t recall ever seeing any activity as I’ve described during that time.  Then attended BYU for 7 years, returning home during the summers to work, never seeing it.  My wife & I married in `71, moved to San Diego.  In `75, we moved to College Station, TX, in the Bible Belt.  Reading the newspaper one day, my wife said, “Wow!  Look at this!” There it was, in print . . . hate toward our church.  Since that time, living in Missouri, we’ve seen it many times.  Out of curiosity, we even purposely attended a 4-hour hate meeting at a local Southern Baptist Church, “Mormon Awareness Night”.  It was incredible.  Just plain bigotry, much like we’d seen some people behave toward persons of color, or Jewish people.  Over the years, we’ve wondered why, & have developed our own thoughts.

 

“As Christians, our deepest allegiance and commitment is to Jesus Christ and His Word. We are Christians first, Americans second and conservatives third—and we’ll support the Republican Party as long as it maintains fidelity to our deepest core values.” I'm thankful that you feel this way.  This is precisely what we admonish, not as Mormons, but my wife and me.  Actually, when we’re interviewed by our minister for a temple recommend, he must ask the question, “Do you obey the laws of the land?” Answering that question correctly, no matter in which country a Mormon lives, is a requirement.

 

A Mormon’s “whole Christian life is (not) spent fighting to maintain a prominent place for the Christian worldview in the market place of ideas against the forces of secularism that would seek to silence that voice”.  We are only expected to keep the commandments, continuously repent as needed, & live & spread the gospel.  We’re not expected to “maintain a prominent place” for any organization, but only for ourselves (as individuals) with God.  The Mormon Church doesn’t support any candidate for president of the United States.  It is, however, evidenced by public record that most Mormons are Republicans at this time.  I vote for the person.  My wife, however, votes for who she perceives as the Democrat loser in the primaries, and for her choice of Republicans in November.  Sort of her “double-whammy”.

 

Do you think it might be even a slim possibility for the potential that Mormons could have a special website dedicated to saying negative things about evangelical “Christians”?  I’ve never seen one, & it certainly would not be approved/sanctioned by the Mormon Church.  In fact, if Mormon Church leadership discovered it, this might be grounds for disfellowship or excommunication of author(s).  You’re just not going to ever see it.  What I’ve seen in surfing internet blogs & quotes from evangelicals about my church could be called anything but “soft censorship”.  It is just plain bigotry, “short- or long-step”.  I don’t see any articles out there where “Christianity” is defending itself in this time of election campaigning, do you?  Well, maybe your article?

 

You accurately state, “If I was a Mormon I would relish the opportunity to talk about what my religion teaches in the public square, and what better opportunity to get the message out than when a Mormon is running for president?” Are you suggesting this is why Romney is running for president?  I’ve mentioned this possibility to my wife, but it’s hard to imagine anyone would take missionary work so seriously.  He’s got a lot more courage than I do to run for office.  Please try to see my opinion of what’s clearly happening . . . some evangelicals have raised the question so loudly, bringing our church to the attention of the media that this seems to be happening anyway.  In other words, they’ve brought it on themselves.  What you say is precisely correct.  Instead of feeling guilty for not being good missionaries, as we’re asked to do by our church leaders, there’s a swell of nonmembers now seeking us out to answer their questions about our church.  Believe me, we had nothing to do w/this!  But it’s suddenly very exciting to see so much interest.  Had evangelicals just left it alone, as they perhaps did when a Quaker was elected, this may not have happened.

 

I’ve looked at www.lds.org since it was invented.  Bigotry implies intolerance, an un-American behavior.  I’ve never seen an ounce of it at that website.  Let readers explore for themselves.  If you think this, you haven't explored it yourself.  I'm a university professor.  Had my students reviewed a document & made such a conclusion, they would fail an exam. 

 

Romney’s not going to talk about his personal beliefs, or Mormon doctrine.  We observed the effect of another candidate’s sincere personal beliefs yesterday in one of his television ads.  I respect him for his beliefs, but it’s not appropriate for any candidate/president to eschew his personal beliefs on the national population.  That’s why Romney will never talk about these things, before or after.  His behavior in this regard was demonstrated when governor of Massachusetts.

 

I like your example of “equality and rights”.  Not until moving to the Bible Belt did I completely understand this issue.  We have a street named “Division Street” in our town.  A building manager for a local “Christian” church explained to me that the congregation was divided by the sanctuary’s center aisle until the 1970s, northern (abolitionist) sympathizers in one side, southern on the opposite.  In 1907, not just a few people, but a majority or over 6,000 men & boys surrounded a Statue of Liberty replica in the Town Square to watch the lynching of 3 black men accused of raping a white woman, then dropped into a bonfire below, after which they were acquitted.  Afterward, the sheriff shouted, “Okay boys, you’ve had your fun.  Now go on home!” Even today, we have all-white & all-black evangelical churches in our town.  One of my 1st questions when I joined the Mormon Church was, “Why can’t black men hold the priesthood?” No member had an answer, or even does now.  We've always gotten very excited when black people have attended our church, no matter where we've lived.  It was just not yet revealed that they should.  I never spoke to a Mormon who didn’t feel sadly about this pre-1978 policy, but they just accepted it, just as we and some evangelicals accept baptism by immersion.  For all Mormons I’ve ever met, it was an elation when it was revealed to President Spencer W. Kimball that all worthy male members could be ordained.

 

“Theologically, Mormons and Christians share almost nothing in common . . . .” You may be correct.  No intelligent Mormon would agree that we are “Christians” although I think “almost nothing” is a little extreme.  I’ve had many close friends as evangelicals.  I never choose to argue w/them but, instead, ask them about their beliefs.  It’s surprising how much we do agree on, theologically.  The puzzling thing is that they so often disagree w/each other, or even w/their ministers.  When they seriously disagree with their ministers on a point of doctrine or practice, they simply move to a more compatible congregation, church, minister. 

 

“As far as it is translated correctly” doesn’t diverge from what’s occurred anywhere in Christendom today.  How many translations of the Bible have been published over the past 20 years?  And before that?  One of my Baptist ancestors was burned at the stake in New England for publishing a new translation of the Bible.  Did Joseph Smith do anything different than provide a tweaked translation, just as many modern translations by different Protestants?

 

There’s no point in debating Mormon doctrines delineated next in your article, or references to them in the Bible.  You know them as well as me.

 

Before or after inauguration, Romney or not, the world will “in fact hear volumes from Salt Lake City”.  That will never end because Mormons believe it’s a commandment to spread the gospel “until every ear will hear, every knee shall bow to Christ”.  Romney as candidate has nothing to do w/it.  Harry Reid, Democrat Senate majority leader believes/practices the same.  His 2 sons have fulfilled 2-year missions as well.  He recently spoke to over 20,000 BYU students, bearing his testimony w/great fervor.

 

For all of us, one thing is certain.  I don’t want to see Bill Clinton living in the White House or Oval Office EVER again!  I’m sure everything had to be sanitized when he moved out.  Why go to that expense again?  I am hoping, as I think you are, for a conservative who will cut expenses and taxes; somehow salvage medicare and social security, bring our soldiers home, try to preserve peace in the world, restore us as a beacon to the world, be a role model in the White House, somehow get D.C. government to work together, be assertive, figure out how to get the media to support our national interests.  I really don’t care about her/his religion.  I know we are subject to the same God no matter what His image.  I pray that, if Romney is elected, you will soon realize that he will be no threat to your church, that he will do nothing to disrespect his office or the people of our nation.  It is most important to me that you understand that, if he did, he would be disfellowshipped or excommunicated from the Mormon Church.

 

Steve

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What about the boat?

We heard all the scuttlebutt about those English sailors in the media for awhile.  Everyone was so taken by the possibility of them escaping, not being be-headed, etc.  Maybe they had a narrow escape.  Who knows?  But, what happened to the boat?  Not that the boat was the most important issue, but what happened to it?  Was it just stolen by these thugs?  No one even thought about that!  Is it not even an issue that a group of thugs can just go around stealing other country's equipment?  Seems like England had the right to demand that their boat be returned, or at least receive financial restitution.

Zapper!
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Getting at Lawmakers

We've lost a certain amount of free speech because so many lawmakers block everyone from posting e-mail feedback to them through their websites.  Every time I post a message to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and others, I have to lie about my address.  I find myself going to a Chamber of Commerce website in their state, picking out an address and phone number, adjusting them a little, returning to their websites, entering the bad data, and posting my message to them.  It's so frustrating because, in fact, these people have made me one of their constituents and they will not accept my e-mail.  Don't you think there are now non-Nevada citizens (in the case of Reid), of any political party or no political party, who want/need to get their message to these people?  It seems like we need to make this a law, that all lawmakers need to allow incoming mail from ALL states!  They are impacting all of us now, in a great way!  They are impacting my nation's security.  While I don't, if I did have a daughter or son fighting in Iraq and they were trying to make it less than possible for my child to succeed, I would be much more angry than I am right now!  It seems illegal that they exercise the right to block citizens from the other 49 states from giving them our opinion by e-mail.  Isn't it "for the people", or is it just for a few of their constituents in their home state?  What can we do to change this?

Zapper!
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